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Advice for Employers and Recruiters

How can we ensure that AI for hiring is used for good? | ep99

September 4, 2025


On today’s episode of the High Volume Hiring Podcast, Justin Olin of Upwage talks with us about the importance of caring at scale…and cohost Steven Rothberg of College Recruiter job search site spends a little too much time talking about Wayne Gretzky.

Our other cohost, Jeanette Leeds, learns from Justin that Upwage’s assessments are used by some of the world’s largest organizations to help them better identify competencies, which are more predictive of workplace performance than job titles that you had with past employers, particularly for those who are early in their careers, applying for high-volume roles, or both.

As we close, we talk with Justin about where assessments should live in the hiring process. Should we just assess finalists? All applicants? Before allowing candidates to apply? He says none of the above, and where he says it should live might surprise you.

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